"And He answered and said to them, 'Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,'"—Matthew 19:4 (NKJV)
"But from the beginning of the creation, God 'made them male and female.'"—Mark 10:6 (NKJV)
When Jesus was asked questions about marriage he went straight back to the defining passages in Genisis that say that marriage is between male and female and is meant to be life long. He saw the creation accounts in Genesis as authoritative in His day. And what is authoritative for Jesus is authoritative for Christians also. While Jesus did not specifically teach on homosexuality, His establishment of the Genesis passages as the fundamental passages on marriage (even more fundamental than the Law) leaves no doubt as to the outcome.
To give sanction to homosexual marriage would be to give approval to that lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. I believe that Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage / same sex marriage. Marriage is ordained by God to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Homosexual marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage. God forbids and condemns homosexuality, so He clearly is opposed to homosexual marriage. As Christians, we are to seek to share the love of God and salvation through Christ with homosexuals.
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What does Jesus say about Gay marriage? Absolutely nothing. That would be like Jesus talking about open heart surgery or equality of all men (no slaves). Things that did not exist at the time.
Yes homosexuals existed then but it was not understood as it is today. It is referring to straight people given over to lustful acts of sex with people of the same gender. They were heterosexual men who went to the temple prostitutes to engage in pagan rituals. It was wild sexual orgies in the streets.
What is talked about in the bible is not the loving monogimous relationship I have with my gf. Our relationship is ruled by love, not lust.
"But from the beginning of the creation, God 'made them male and female.'" I had read stories where a male child was born with a deformed or non working penis and doctors reassigned his sex organs to appear female. They were raised female, the hormones they got we female and physically they look female. But are they being gay if raised female they are still attracted to females? Yes I know this is a small percentage of the population but it has happened.
"When Jesus was asked questions about marriage he went straight back to the defining passages in Genisis that say that marriage is between male and female and is meant to be life long." Of course he would, people of that time could not understand things that we know today. Again Jesus was in that time with those people. His message would be different today even if he keep the same exact meaning.
On a different site you have already stated that differences in religous doctrine will not keep Christians out of heaven So you believe that women should not speak in church and divorced people have no place in authority in your religion, and I disagree. And those issues won't keep me out of heaven so why will our disagreement on homosexuality keep me out of heaven?
Hill,
Because he says nothing does that make it okay? I do believe that was the defense used when it came to incest. Funny how that works isn't it?
Not understood? So are you saying that God did not understand homosexuality those thousands of years ago and some how He has grown wiser?
The example you gave was due to human error. God had no part of that.
God's message would change? Then throw away the bible and rewrite it how you would like. That is what you are doing by saying God's message would change.
The women not speaking in church, and divorce is a request by God for purity of the Church and for what it stands for. Homosexuality is a sin of the flesh.
Sane, Please re read what I posted for it seems that you miss what I am saying. I was saying that people of that time would not understand Jesus if he talked about things of today. Just like we would not understand if he talked of things not yet to be. Try explaining an airplain to someone who has never even seen an engine. At no point did I say that God didn't understand.
The deformity was not human error. The question was if someone's gender was different than what they physically looked like, would it still be homosexuality?
"His message would be different today even if he keep the same exact meaning." Sane really, I didn't claim that God would change, just how the message was said. The parables would change because so many people in this world have no clue what a shepherd does or how to grow wheat etc.
Okay, you have the right to your interpretation and to keep divorced people out of your church and women silent. I have the right to my interpretation and to believe that not only is my homosexuality not a sin but a God given gift. Because through my journey to reconcile myself with God, I have learned love and compassion. Lessons much needed in today's world.
Hill,
I had read stories where a male child was born with a deformed or non working penis and doctors reassigned his sex organs to appear female. They were raised female, the hormones they got we female and physically they look female. But are they being gay if raised female they are still attracted to females?
The key words are: Doctors reassigned his sex organs. Changing them. That is what I was answering.
You act as if there weren't homosexuals. Do you not think Jesus ran into homosexuals? He could have said between two people who deeply love one another. But he didn't.
Sane, there have been homosexuals from the beginning of time because GOD created them. My statement was to the effect that the scriptures do not talk about the type of relationship I am in. They talk about rape and drunken orgies. Neither of which I have ever done nor do I want to.
I fully believe that Jesus met homosexuals for he stated that some men were made eunichs and some were born thay way. There are even arguements out there that Jesus was gay. Remember the disciple he loved?
Now before you bust a gasket, I don't think Jesus was gay. But it is an example of people taking verses out of context to prove their point.
No where in the bible does it say that it is great to be gay. I know that. But neither does it address my relationship.
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